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February 19, 2008

Newsround - Racism

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Spanish fans’ racist chants at England football players in a friendly between the two countries sparked outrage.

Students look at ways of tackling racism.

Learning aims
  • What is racism?
  • Different types of racism and discrimnation
  • Ways of tackling racism

    Icebreaker
    FA’S FURY AT SPAIN’S RACIST FANS
    England player Rio Ferdinand has said he was ready to come off the field after Spanish fans hurled abuse
    Click here to read the story

    Read out this story about racism in football.

    Ask students:

  • What is racism? Racism is treating someone differently or unfairly simply because they belong to a different race or culture.
  • What are the Football Association (FA) doing about the racist chants? They have sent a letter of complaint to the Spanish Federation. They have also put together a report for Fifa, the world football governing body, for an speed specialty dating tampa into the racist abuse.
  • If racism is proved, what do you think the punishment should be? The Spanish FA could face a huge fine or Spain could even be handed a five-match ban. Some people say Spain should be forced to play its world cup qualifier games in empty stadiums.

    Main activity

    Students act as ChildLine counsellors.

    In 2000/2001 ChildLine received 525 calls and letters from children about racist bullying, and a further 47 calls and letters from children who had encountered other forms of racism.

    Using the printable worksheet, students read about some of them:

    CHILDLINE CASE STUDIES
    Arsenal midfielder Patrick Vieira is leading his club's drive to get racism out of the beautiful game.
    Click here for the printable worksheet

    1. Sharon, 16, is dating a Pakistani boy. Her parents are racist, so she has to keep her relationship a secret, which is making her feel anxious.

    2. Sandra, 11, is called racist names as she is black. She is scared to tell her teacher, in case the bullying gets worse.

    3. Ravinder, 15, is being beaten up by a group of boys at school, because he is Asian.

    4. Alice, 9, is being bullied at school, as she is the only white girl in her class.

    5. Clive, 13, has just moved to Scotland from England. A gang of Scottish boys at school calls him names.

    6. Sunitta, 14, is being called racist names at school. Racist comments are also written about her on the wall of the toilets. Her teacher hasn’t done anything about it.

    7. Dina, 12, is teased because she is Italian. She has to have extra lessons for her English reading and writing. She feels nervous about going to school.

    Students imagine they are a ChildLine counsellor. What advice would they give these seven children?

    They write down one suggestion they would give each child.

    Then compare it with their partner’s or other people’s advice on their table.

    Students select the best piece of advice to give to each child.

    Pupils could also compare their group’s advice to some suggestions made by ChildLine - see Teachers’ Background below.

    Extension activity
    GUIDE TO RACISM
    Getting bullied because of your colour
    Click here for our guide

    Racists bully people who are different to them.

    Make a list of as many forms of ethnic dating as you can think of.

    Here’s a few to start off with:

  • Racism
  • Ageism
  • Sexism

    Now have a look at our guide to see if there are any more you can add.

    Plenary

    Groups or pairs share their best piece of advice with the rest of the class and explain why they chose this above other suggestions.

    Teachers’ background

    From the ChildLine webiste which has lots of useful information on racism and bullying for students and teachers - See link on the right hand side.

    How to put a stop to racist abuse

    1. Stop taking the abuse
    You don’t have to accept this sort of hassle. Everyone has a right to live happily and free from discrimination, no matter what their nationality or race.

    2. Accept that you’re not the one with the problem
    Your self-esteem may have taken a knock if you’re having a hard time, but the thing you have to remember is that you are not the one to have caused the problem.

    3. Tell someone what’s happening to you
    You don’t have to suffer in silence. Think who’s the best person to talk to about what’s happening. Schools, police and employers have a responsibility to protect you. Other parts of your life will suffer if you keep silent. If the problem is at school, your work might dating free internet online service. Speak up now before the problem takes over. Why not try having a word with a ChildLine counsellor first to try out what you would like to say?

    4. Go for a team effort
    Get other people involved in tackling the problem - perhaps you could start an anti-racism project or newsletter at your school or youth group and invite an anti-racist speaker along. Or set up a discussion group to talk about relevant issues and see what you can do to help in your area.

    5. Make people take you seriously
    If you are going to alert someone to the fact that you’re being threatened, abused or bullied, then do it properly. You have to be prepared to get across how just it is affecting your well-being.

    6. Keep some evidence of what’s happening (a diary of events, for example)
    This might be useful to show others that you need help.

    7. Plan what you would like to happen
    Now go for it.

    8. Make other parts of your life even better
    Don’t let racists ruin every area of your life. For example, if you’re unhappy at school or work, then make sure you make up for the bad times by enjoying yourself at home or with your friends.

    9. Keep safe and aware
    You can’t spend you life looking over your shoulder, but it pays to be aware of dangers. Stick with groups of friends if you feel vulnerable.

    10. Never give up!
    You might not be able to tackle racism by yourself. Seek out support and accept help where you can.The government has put anti-racist laws into place to protect all members of the community. In many schools young people and teachers work together to produce anti-bullying policies, which include sections on racist bullying.

    Equal opportunities

    Many companies, when advertising for jobs, try to attract ethnic dating site from all ethnic minorities as well as all other sections of the community. This is called ‘Equal Opportunities’, and enables everyone who is applying for a job to have the same chance of securing a job, regardless of their race, culture, age, religion, colour, marital status, gender, sexuality or disability.

    The law

    The Race Relations (Amendment) Act 2000 strengthens The Race Relations Act 1976 in Great Britain, which makes it illegal to discriminate in the fields of employment, education, housing, and the provision of goods, services and facilities. In addition to this, the amendment also extends to the Public Sector. The Race Relations Order 1997, which applies to Northern Ireland, covers the same issues.

    Both these UK Government Acts give people the right to bring their complaint before an employment tribunal or a court. Racist incidents ranging from harassment and abuse to physical violence are offences under the criminal law. Inciting racial hatred is also a criminal offence. Racially offensive material in the media contravenes media codes of practice. Complaints can be made to the Press Complaints Commission or the Ethnic dating Standards Authority.

    For hundreds more lessons click on the Teachers button on the left hand side.

  • February 15, 2008

    News - Bosnia’s horrific war memories

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    Dragan Kolundzija, Kole to his friends, is sitting at the bar of the Hotel Prijedor when we enter.


    He smiles awkwardly and gets down off the stool to shake hands.


    He looks younger than his 46 years.


    If you saw him in the street, you could mistake him for a football coach.


    Not a reserve policeman.


    Not a free online adult dating camp guard.


    He has not agreed to an interview yet. He has turned down the approaches of other ethnic dating site.


    It takes Lola 10 minutes to persuade him to speak.


    Lola, my fixer, who fought for a while in the same Bosnian Serb army as Kole and tells dirty jokes all day long, has a heart of gold and is not afraid of anything.


    Meanwhile, I watch the women cleaning the glass panels which dot the lobby of this hotel.


    Then we go upstairs to a big empty room with a gas heater.


    The hotel staff seem afraid of us, or of Kole, I cannot decide which.


    ‘Tortured to death’


    Kole was a guard at Keraterm in 1992, one of three concentration camps in north-west Bosnia, where nearly 1,700 Bosnian Muslims were tortured to death in three months in the summer of 1992.


    Thousands of others still bear the scars.

    Map of Bosnia


    He pleaded guilty to one count of dating ethnic as a crime against humanity. And got three years in jail from the Hague War Crimes Tribunal.


    And was one of the first to be released.


    Five of his fellow guards are still serving sentences.


    “There were 30 in total”, he says.


    Sitting with him, it is easy to remember that the Serbs too are victims of the Bosnian war.


    That the jailers too, suffer.


    His hands shake badly. And his lips.


    He tries to hold his hands still on the pure white tablecloth.


    We make small talk for a while, but I cannot pretend we have come to talk about the river, which flows lazily by, beneath the windows.


    I try to be gentle.


    I am a storyteller, not a prosecutor.


    What ways were open to you to show kindness to the prisoners?


    He breaks down immediately.


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    After a while, he says he has a friend.


    A Muslim, who was an inmate at the camp, when he was a guard.


    We guards were much closer to robots than to human beings

    Kole


    Would we like to meet him?


    Ten minutes later, Suad, known as Duda is there.


    He too is trembling.


    The Serb and the Muslim, the guard and his prisoner are sitting side-by-side, broken faced, broken eyed, drinking stupid soft drinks as though there was no war, no cruelty, no injustice in this world.


    “We guards were much closer to robots than to human beings… we were all doing things which were not connected to our true selves… ” says Kole.


    “There was chaos in the compound, and chaos outside in the town. And men with guns.”


    They explain to me, in fits and starts, what a concentration camp means.


    What the concentration of men means.


    It is where men are concentrated to death.


    Four rooms with 400-500 men in each, 120 metres square.


    In the summer heat. With no space to lie down.


    Civilians, from 15 to 90-years-old.


    Rounded up at the start of the war on the orders of the high command, zealously carried out by local henchmen.


    Muslims had been officially declared vermin.


    So they had to be concentrated.


    Every night Serb soldiers, back from the front, came to the camp.


    They wanted revenge for lost comrades.


    They asked the guards for the keys to the rooms.


    And committed acts of online dating software barbarity. Of sexual humiliation and horror.


    Of all the guards, only Kole refused to hand over the key, says Duda.


    That was the only shift when there were no beatings or killings.


    Except for just one night.


    ‘Dark black night’


    “It was dark, the soldiers somehow got into the room and Kole was shouting, stop shooting, stop shooting!” Duda says. “By morning there were 200 bodies.”


    Kole is hunched up at the table, staring at the back of his hands, as though he does not know what they are.


    After a while he says, “that was a dark black night”.


    At the Hague, Duda testified in his defence.


    Partly thanks to that, Kole is out already.


    The judges believed he did what he could, to alleviate the suffering.


    Now the two men are friends again. Like they were at primary school.


    After the interview, I try to find the toilet but my brain is fogged up.


    I walk headfirst into a plate glass door. The women cleaned it too well. It quivers but does not break.


    I walk with my hands in front of me now, like a blind man.


    But there are those who still believe in a final solution to the ‘Muslim problem’


    This hotel, this country is a labyrinth of invisible glass.


    On the way out of Prijedor, we pass Keraterm, the ex-camp. Once a factory for bathroom tiles.


    It is a low, meaningless building beside another factory, which boasts a chimney at least, for making bricks.


    25,000 Muslims are back in Prijedor. Out of the 45,000 who once lived here.


    Some stare at Kole in the street. Some shake his hand.


    Nearly everyone was changed by the war.


    But there are those who still believe in a final solution to the “Muslim problem”.


    That one race, or ethnic group, is better than another.


    But if Kole and Duda can live together anyone can.


    From Our Own Correspondent was broadcast on Saturday, 29 January, 2005, at 1130 GMT on BBC Radio 4. Please check the programme schedules for World Service transmission times.

    February 14, 2008

    News - Anti-terror laws: Your views

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    The Prevention of Terrorism Act became law after a marathon session in the Commons.

    The controversial Act enables the home secretary to impose “control orders” on suspected terrorists, requiring them to remain in their homes, wear tags and not communicate with other suspects.

    The Bill provoked a number of rebellions among MPs and peers and the deadlock ended when the prime agreed to review the law in one year.

    How should terrorism be tackled? Should the prevention of terrorism be higher on the electoral agenda? What do you think of the parties’ policies on terror and security?

    This debate is now closed for polling day. Thank you for your comments.

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    BBC NEWS: VIDEO AND AUDIO
    Your anti-terror questions answered

    Hazel Blears from Labour, the Conservative’s Andrew Mitchell, and Lord McNally for the Lib Dems answered your questions on anti-terrorism measures. Click on the link to watch the debate.





    The following comments reflect the balance of opinion we have received so far:


    Allowing detention without trial, such as house arrest, is wrong

    Emma, Peterborough, UK

    Allowing detention without trial, such as house arrest, is wrong. Everyone has a right to clear their name in court, however heinous the crime they are accused of, and nothing can justify taking that right away. If these people are guilty and there is evidence, they will be found guilty, if not, then they shouldn’t be locked up as if they are.
    Emma, Peterborough, UK

    Politicians are the biggest targets for any terrorist threat facing this country. If the population of the UK were asked would you like to spend 1bn of public money to protect them while they change laws dating back to 1215 I think the answer would be No!
    Jonathan Ritson, Leeds, UK

    I’m all for the anti-terror laws. They don’t go far enough in my opinion. If you’ve nothing to hide you’ve nothing to worry about. Its all because of the do-gooding bleeding hearts allowing foreign terrorists in the form of ‘asylum seekers’ into the country.
    K T Bell, Bradford, West Yorkshire


    We should be dealing with the causes of terrorism

    Chris, Romsey, UK

    We should be dealing with the causes of terrorism, such as the gap between rich and poor nations, the Western oppression of the global markets and our ethnic dating site racism, rather than converting democracies into effectively tyrannies. The anti-terror laws have given our government all the powers they need to start new terrorist groups here, and lead many dis-satisfied citizens into existing terrorist groups. We are playing into their hands. Why?
    Chris, Romsey, UK

    My history book says that within the Magna Carta (signed 790 years ago!), it states that all free men have a right to a free trial… and a council of 25 barons would imprison that anyone who tries to change it. Where are the barons and why is Tony Blair free?
    Jonathan Ritson, Leeds, UK

    There has to be protection against criminals, that is what the law is about, after all and I believe that prevention is better than cure. If we were to impose control orders to ensure public safety from terror suspects then that has to be right. Some people will complain but the main issue is to protect our country from the despicable sociopaths who plan to commit terror crimes. I think that if you are found in possession of bomb making equipment, guns or substances that are fatal to health then these people should accept what comes their way.
    Jayne, Stevenage

    Britain faces ideological extremists ruthlessly dedicated to achieving acts of spectacular and lethal violence against those who either actively or merely passively, oppose their actions for political change in the world. If indeed you believe that the war in Iraq has further increased such risks, then some degree of encroachment on personal liberties must be responsibly demanded.
    John Maclean, London


    They represent the interests of the few at the expense of the many

    Mark Malik, Warsaw, Poland

    When the IRA was bombing mainland Britain, they were more of a threat to life and limb, and the economic interests. Yet the laws passed were proportionate, and politicians negotiated with the terrorists. The government is prepared to run a coach and horses through the centuries old laws that have been won by the sacrifice of many. This logic has only one answer. They represent the interests of the few at the expense of the many.
    Mark Malik, Warsaw, Poland

    Mark Malik, Warsaw: When the IRA was bombing mainland Britain we had detention without trial, the Guilford Four and the Birmingham Six ethnic dating of justice. And we had the SAS carrying out virtual executions both in Ireland and abroad (like Gibraltar). If anything, I feel the response to Islamic terror is too modest and is hamstrung by liberal-fascism and the Human Rights Act.
    Peter, Nottingham

    With identity cards and imprisonment without trial and 24 hour CCTV, Blair is determined to turn this once great democracy into a European Zimbabwe style police state. We no longer have any freedoms or privacy. It’s about time this country wakes up to what this government is doing in the name of protecting our freedom before it is too late, we may not get another chance.
    Anthony, Devon

    I agree with most the anti-terror laws; however it should be High Judges, not politicians who should be allowed to use them to avoid misuse. Ironic how despite ridiculing the Thatcher administration for years, Tony Blair has become one of the most Draconian leaders since Oliver Cromwell.
    Gil Eliav, Leeds


    These laws undermine our legal, political and ethical systems

    Colin Wright, UK

    For me it’s the key issue that prevents me even considering a vote for Labour. These laws undermine our legal, political and ethical systems. We now have all the instruments of a police state in place in the UK. I recognise the need to defend our society, but you don’t do that by undermining its foundations.
    Colin Wright, UK

    The government has let in thousands of potential terrorists as asylum seekers who are wanted in their countries for various offences. We can’t send them back because of human rights or they’d face death. Current terror laws can only be described closing the stable doors after the horse has bolted. You can bet your boots that these terror laws will cost a great deal, take a long time and achieve nothing! Typical Labour really, remember the hunting ban farce?
    James, SE Cornwall, UK

    “They that could give up essential liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” - Benjamin Franklin. If we are prepared to jettison one of our most fundamental liberties so easily, God help us all if the terrorists actually attack Britain. Wake up people! We have a government prepared to use every trick at its disposal to legislate for imprisonment without trial and house arrest.
    Mike Christie, Bacup, Lancs

    All those that rebel about strong anti-terror laws will be the first to shout: “what is the Government doing?” if a serious terrorist attack was successful. If you have no guilty secrets why shouldn’t you accept ID Cards, imprisonment without trial and all the rest of the measures being put in place? Stop complaining, the Government is only thinking of your safety.
    John L Cooper, Great Yarmouth

    If there is a threat so serious that we have to throw away the most basic human rights, how come the number of police hasn’t been doubled? I cannot believe that whilst millions died for our freedom, we’re so cowardly we give them up because we are “scared”.
    Jonathan Kelk, Dalry, Scotland

    I would like some assurance that the Anti Terror legislation will not be used against those who wish to protest against government action, as is the citizen’s democratic right. There is a distinct right wing trend here and in the US Patriot Act.
    Elizabeth, Stockport, UK


    Terrorism is a priority, but it needs to be dealt with sensitively and wisely

    Maria Daniel, Birmingham

    Terrorism is a priority, but it needs to be dealt with sensitively and wisely. Firstly there should be less provocation - we should understand that a wise solution requires an understanding of causes. The Government should approach ethnic groups and work with them with respect of their culture and religion. The war in Iraq has increased the risk of terrorism, not lessened it. We should actively remind the world that we are a democratic country strong in human rights and not an imperialist empire. Now measures such as “control orders” appear to me to be desperate measures; I wonder how many terrorists may be lurking about unsuspected. What are we going to do about them?
    Maria Daniel, Birmingham

    Terrorism is real and we must be alert to defend the UK. However if such a defence is to rapidly remove the very fabric of our freedom and liberty then the terrorists are halfway to their targets. I urge readers to check up on the Patriot Act in the USA to see how citizens there in the “Land of the Free” have had their liberties damaged by such measures and what could happen here.
    Jim Kirk, Basildon

    The “presumed innocent” concept and segregation of power in democracy has been around since the start of democracy in ancient Greece. It has been a value that has survived for 2,500 years throughout a history of wars, barbaric raids, famines, drought and world wars. Now because Bush has started his “war on terror” they are trying to convince them that they are not that important. How can we claim to be fighting for democracy in the Middle East when we accept a “lesser” democracy at home?
    Augerinos J, Greece

    My only concern is now Tony Blair will scrap the democratic House of Lords because it has the affront to say no to him. I think this may be the start of the end of democracy in the UK. This must be taken into account at the next election, where the Labour party must not be given a third term as it could last 100 years after they change all the rules to allow them to stay in power.
    Thomas D Jago, Khobar, Saudi Arabia

    Charles Clarke argues that the House of Lords is being “unconstitutional” in its defiance over the Prevention of Terror Bill. On the contrary, it is being more constitutional than the Labour government are in the Commons because the Lords are taking time to consider this bill and thusly represent the people in Britain much more effectively.
    Will, Britain

    Supporters of this piece of draconian legislation ought to ask themselves a simple question. What will be the government’s response to a terrorist incident? The only response I can think of is to introduce even more draconian legislation. I can almost hear Charles Clarke speaking about ‘measured and proportionate action’ as he presents his bill for ethnic dating tagging the population to Parliament.

    Colin Simpson, Workington Cumbria

    The terrorist threat does exist, but it was created by the actions and policies of current and previous Western (particularly UK and US) governments, who trained many of these terrorist groups. The threat is now greatly exaggerated to frighten the public into accepting draconian legislation and the loss of civil liberties.

    Gareth Millsted, London, UK


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    February 13, 2008

    News - Doubts and fears in Afghan poll

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    Kabul has not looked so colourful in a long time.

    Posters of the hundreds of candidates running for Sunday’s parliamentary and provincial elections now fill any available wall space.

    Multi-coloured banners hang from trees and between lampposts.

    It is the same story in other towns and cities.

    In Kabul, people argue about who has the best poster - the ethnic dating yellow background and attractive face of Sabrina Saqeb, the youngest candidate, gets many people’s vote.

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    Particularly in the last week before the campaign ended on Thursday, there has been a growing sense of enthusiasm for the process.

    “This is probably the largest amount of popular support I’ve seen for the idea of establishing a parliament,” says Peter Erben, the chief election officer with the joint Afghan and international organising body, comparing his experience here with that of running first elections in places like Bosnia and most recently Iraq.

    But the chaos of colour and faces on Specialty dating mormon site streets also illustrates how confusing it will be for voters on Sunday, most of them illiterate.

    There are 5,800 candidates nationwide for the two elections, few declaring any political ties that might distinguish them.


    I’m not voting this time. They’re all warlords

    Ahmad Jawad,
    Kabul food seller

    Some question whether the symbol each candidate has been given to go with their picture on the ballot will help much, especially in Kabul where voters will have to trawl through 390 names.

    Voting is likely to take a lot longer than for last year’s presidential election.

    For all the enthusiasm for the process, many Afghans are also sceptical about what this parliament will achieve.

    In the past year since the presidential poll, many people have been christian single online dating service about what they say is the slow
    pace of change, especially with reconstruction.

    But it is also because of concerns that many militia commanders, or people with ties to armed groups, have been allowed to stand.

    “I’m not voting this time,” says Ahmad Jawad, who runs a street food stall in Kabul. “They’re all
    warlords.”

    ‘Commander candidates’

    That has sometimes seemed to be the main issue in this campaign.

    Ballot papers in Bamiyan

    Ballot papers are delivered to a village in Bamiyan province

    President Hamid Karzai, in a BBC interview, said it was up to Afghans to decide.

    “If I consider someone a criminal, then I would not vote for him or her. And the same can be done by every other Afghan,” he said.

    But concerns about the ability of some “commander candidates” to intimidate people in their local areas remain.

    What is more, for all the talk about there being no parties in this process, that is only because they are not listed on the ballot papers.

    Afghanistan’s old parties - many dating back to the years fighting the Soviet invasion - are still operating and targeting their own specific ethnic and tribal dating ethnic site.

    In some cases, candidates have declared these affiliations during their campaigns.

    But in many cases, these old parties have also recruited “hidden” candidates and are paying for their campaigns.

    So if they win seats, the leaders will expect them to represent the party in parliament.

    And when you talk to the leaders of these older parties, there is little discussion about the day-to-day concerns of voters in a country that remains among the five or six poorest in the world.

    ‘Demagogue’

    But perhaps this is the way this election should be judged - as a contest between old Afghan politicians and new.

    Woman candidate in Kabul

    Candidate Suraia Abadi gets her message across in Kabul

    There are signs of new voices emerging - especially among younger and female candidates.

    In Kabul former journalist, Shukria Barakzai, has been running a very simple street campaign, driving around the city, randomly stopping and talking to voters. It is not something she could do in most rural areas.

    “I must show the women they can have power. Women can be leaders,” she says.

    Former planning minister, Ramazan Bashadost, has been campaigning for a parliamentary seat by targeting alleged misspending of foreign aid by the UN and other international online dating softwares.

    Critics say he is a demagogue, especially with statements like “the UN is the most corrupt organisation in the world”.

    But he is winning a following and there is no question he is focusing on a question many Afghans ask - why it is taking so long for them to see the benefits of outside aid.

    In the past few days, Afghan mobile phone companies have been sending out text messages encouraging people to vote.

    “Go vote and celebrate a new era of hope and freedom,” reads one.

    In a country still affected by conflict in many areas, holding a second election is something to celebrate.

    We will only begin to get an idea of whether it heralds a new era in late October, when final results are due.

    February 11, 2008

    News - Village faces being wiped off map

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    “There’s the church I got married in, the cottage hospital where I had my children, the primary school and the playgroup I helped set up. All of it will be under concrete.”


    Having always lived in Hillingdon borough, and with her 82-year-old mother living across the road, the prospect of moving is unbearable.


    “It’s a very demoralising situation to think a community is going to be wiped off the map.”


    Mrs McCutcheon, 60, and her husband do not want to move but she wonders who would want to buy their house, despite BAA offering transferable bonds guaranteeing its value at 2002 prices.


    However vociferous their campaign, not everyone shares their views.


    Labour peer Lord Soley, of Future Heathrow, which campaigns for the airport’s development, fears if the airport does not expand it will lose out to its European ethnic dating site, having already been overtaken by Frankfurt, Amsterdam and Paris.


    “The threat to Heathrow is real, not imagined,” he says.


    If it is not a hub airport this would have serious long-term consequences for Britain and ethnic dating the Heathrow region, with 70,000 people working at the airport and an estimated 100,000 other jobs indirectly dependent on the airport.


    The former west London MP said: “I have always lived under the flight path. If you asked me if I wanted it for my personal life I would say no, close it down tomorrow morning.


    He believes compensation should be fair but believes the case for a third runway is strong, warning of “dire consequences” if it does not go ahead.


    He cited the example of the East End docks, thriving in the 1960s, yet closed down by the 1980s.


    “Heathrow is already losing out in this race to be the premier airport,” he says.


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    Hillingdon council has long opposed the third runway on environmental grounds.


    Deputy leader David Simmonds says: “If you look at European rules of what air quality is required in residential areas a large part of the south of the borough would be uninhabitable.”


    He is not convinced projected figures for increased air travel will materialise.


    Last year the airport handled nearly 68 million passengers and with three runways it could handle 116 million passengers by 2030, according to Department of Transport figures.

    Sipson in 1946 (courtesy of Philip Sherwood)

    Sipson has co-existed with the airport for more than 60 years


    “It is not as if Heathrow is going to disappear,” he says.


    John Stewart, of the Heathrow residents group Hacan Clear Skies, says: “One old lady said to me she would be close enough to give the pilots breakfast when they land.


    “There should be a clear decision that enough is enough at Heathrow.”


    The prospect of another runway was raised again in Gordon Brown’s pre-Budget Report last year which stressed Heathrow’s “unique role in supporting economic growth across the country”.


    This summer, BAA is due to publish another version of its master plan about possible future development.


    And by the end of the year the government is to give a progress report on the White Paper, which supported a third runway if strict environmental conditions could be met.


    “There will only be a third runway if environmental problems are solved, chiefly air quality,” says David Stewart, Department of Transport spokesman.


    BAA says it will await the outcome of the government adult compare dating online site on the white paper.


    “Economically a third runway is desirable but we have to recognise the huge environmental impact,” says a BAA spokeswoman.


    Mr Stewart, of Hacan, said: “Many have given their lives to the airport, believe in the airport but now in their retirement find the airport want to take their communities, their homes and their links with their families and friends.”

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    February 10, 2008

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    But Catalonia has recently gained more autonomy and nationalists are worried that immigrants will dilute their ethnic dating identity.

    For Crossing Continents, Marian Hens reported on the struggle the newcomers are facing as they try to settle into their new home.

    We asked you if enough was being done to welcome and integrate the new arrivals and if there was more the immigrants could do to make their new lives more successful.

    This debate is now closed. Thank you for your comments.


    If you want to start a life somewhere, to settle, make friends, work, earn money, be loved… the first thing to do is to speak their language. It’s not a matter of nationalism. It’s a matter of common sense. Among the comments here, those that had problems settling in Catalonia are those who didn’t realise the basic rule. How do you want to find a job in London if you don’t speak English?
    Galderic, Barcelona

    I moved to Barcelona from Venezuela about nine years ago and lived there for about four years. I never felt discriminated against due to the language and the Catalan integration course was fantastic. After three months I had learnt most of the spoken language and some people didn’t even notice I was foreign after four months. A Dutch girl in my course learned also learned it in three months. Not learning Catalan is not an excuse - most of the courses are free, the more languages you learn the more beneficial it becomes for your culture and intelect. No excuses!
    Andrea, Manchester

    As an American who used to live in London and Barcelona I can assure you that my experiences in assimilating were much more difficult in England (and I’m a native English speaker). Catalans have been defending their society longer than anyone and are more adapt at handling change. One million new people in six years is a lot to handle for any country. Catalonia is a nation without a state, a concept which is often too difficult for many to understand. If Catalonia where indeed a state, this argrument would not exist. We all have the right to protect our language and culture, end of story.
    Charles, Los Angeles

    Established communities always worry about their ethnic identities, cultures, languages and economic well-being when immigrants enter in large numbers. The trick is for them to learn how to assimilate these newcomers into those norms without becoming xenophobic or racist about it. Can the Catalan province rise to this challenge?
    Walter, Miami, Florida

    I think they are discriminating against the Spanish language in Catalonia. In my opinion both languages are official, so you can’t force anyone to use one of them.
    Aurelio de la Puerta, Seville, Spain

    Catalan language and identity under threat? I can’t believe some people are actually comparing this to what English or British say about their countries. It’s not true. Identities are never a static matter, let alone language. All who says the opposite does not know what s/he is talking about and wants to create a bad debate environment.
    Montse, London

    I am an Andalusian immigrant in Barcelona and I have to say that at the moment my experience here hasn’t been good at all. They are very narrow-minded people and if you are walking down the street and ask someone something in Spanish I can bet you that 90% of the times they will answer you in Catalan, which I found very annoying because I have been living here a short time and I don’t have a great knowledge of the language.
    Jose, Barcelona


    There is still prejudice against people who don’t speak Catalan

    Francisco J, Grenada, Spain

    I think Catalan politicians don’t believe in open societies. Most people can speak Spanish and Catalan, both languages are used daily, but there is still prejudice against people who don’t speak Catalan, as if they were a threat to the Catalan identity. But nationalism is still a powerful way to attract voters. Nevertheless, Catalonia has now an Andalusian-born president, Mr Jose Montilla, who receives lessons of Catalan. Spanish contradictions!
    Francisco J, Grenada, Spain

    Is it that strange not to get a public job for not speaking Catalan in Catalonia? Try to get a public job in any other country without knowing the local language. Why should any country have to justify the use of their own language?
    Christina Carol Sharp, Barcelona

    I am Catalan, and I can promise you, that Catalan is not going to disappear. All the time politicians are trying to increase measures to protect it and our traditions. That’s why we want immigrants to learn Catalan, it’s not only for communication, it’s to avoid feeling completely invaded by strangers that don’t know anything about us and don’t try to learn and preserve it.
    Geezs, Barcelona

    I visited the Balearics a few years ago, armed with some phrase-tape Spanish/Castilian, but found my stumbling attempts to communicate treated with disdain. It didn’t take long to work out the problem: I was simply using the wrong language. Now I can muddle through quite happily in Catalan/Mallorquin but often come across immigrants whose attitude is that they are in Spain and therefore need speak only Spanish. I find it frustrating and an insult to the rich culture of the islands - and I’m only a tourist.
    Rosslyn, Lancashire

    Catalonia shouldn’t expect immigrants to speak fluent Catalan and follow the Catalonian traditions as if they were natives. But immigrants should at least speak Spanish when they come to Spain, or English when they go to the UK, mostly for their own benefit! That’ll help them integrate and reach the desirable “melting point” in which people live together, mix in the same districts, but keep their own traditions.
    Marco, Madrid


    The end of positive immigration is over and the new dangerous era has started

    Zoran Popovic, NY, US

    It is so insulting for a host country to have a group of immigrants from a different culture form their own isolated haven, refuse to integrate and then rebel. Immigrants today are very arrogant. People love to twist what democracy and open societies represent. As a foreigner, one has to respect the host country and try to integrate as much as possible. The end of positive immigration is over and the new dangerous era has started. I am an immigrant and I don’t go around New York and ask for bagels in Serbian! The least I can do is talk English.
    Zoran Popovic, NY, US

    I think next time you should send Marian to investigate what a tough time immigrants are having in Denmark having to learn a language spoken only by 5.5 million people. I can’t understand how the BBC is paying someone to give such a partial view on this matter. Catalonia is a country in every sense of the word, except that we are not legally recognised at an international level. We should not have to constantly justify our policies to such prejudiced attacks, particularly relating to speaking our language in our country.

    Pau Montagut, Manchester

    I lived on Majorca for several years until I sold my apartment in July this year and frankly I was more than glad to leave. Catalan was compulsory in all state schools, Catalan history was promoted in schools - and when my son questioned certain facts was called a foreign trouble-maker. All official documents were written in Catalan first and Spanish second if at all. Cafes, bars and restaurants had the menu in Catalan. And it’s an island that receives a great deal of its income from tourism. Catalans, in my experience, have a big chip on their shoulder, blame everything on Franco and need to get over it. I found them the cold, unfriendly and the most nationalist people I have ever met.
    Sean Dobson, Radcliffe, Lancashire

    I feel compelled to reply to Sean Dobson - of course menus are written in Catalan in Mallorca, because that is the native language! I struggle to understand why people refuse to accept that the people of Catalan countries speak a different language to Spain. Does Sean propose that Catalan be banned, to make life easier for tourists? His flippant reference to Franco shows a lack of understanding of what it is to experience an attempt to have your culture exterminated, and to suffer constant criticism and belittling when you attempt to rebuild it. That is something that most English-speaking cultures have not experienced in recent times, and this I think is the root of misunderstandings in this debate.

    Lauren, Cheshire

    I am English and before I departed to live in Catalonia, I could already speak fluent Spanish. Nevertheless, studying Catalan was a crucial element to settling down and integrating in Barcelona. I think we can all learn from the support structures in place in Catalonia to help foreigners. I find that when I begin to struggle in Catalan, people naturally switched to speak to me in Spanish and I have only ever seen reluctance to speak Spanish in the face of hostility to the Catalan language. In many cities in the world immigration has brought many problems as well as benefits and Barcelona is no exception but can we really claim to put as much effort into helping immigrants learn English and integrate into our society here in England?
    Janet, London

    I don’t think immigrants are a threat to the Catalan identity. Remember, not only Spain but also Europe was founded by different groups of civilisations. Different cultures enrich all aspects of a nation. All sides must have respect for each other to grow.
    Diana, Florida, US


    Immigrants have been excluded in Quebec like no other place in Canada

    Robert Racco, Toronto

    As a Canadian, this story is all too familiar. We have had to deal with this sort of petty nationalism for nearly two centuries. Quebeckers have used strikingly similar arguments to justify their cultural preservation tactics. Immigrants have been excluded in Quebec like no other place in Canada for decades as their paranoid nationalist leaders and supporters have cleverly crafted various legislation that discriminates against both English speakers and newcomers. The Catalans will ultimately suffer if they too opt to implement similar legislation to protect their sacred and pure culture. Quebec has lagged far behind economically from the rest of Canada as a result of these discriminatory policies.
    Robert Racco, Toronto

    To Robert Racco: I disagree with what you say about immigration in Quebec. It is classic propaganda of the Anglo-Saxon Canadian majority about the French speaking people of Quebec. first, I have to say that our province is not filled with racist people dreaming for a fascist, independent state. Quebec is multicultural like the rest of Canada (I’m mixed race). I think the Catalans (and any other country or region) can accept immigrants without the fear of losing their national identity. Quebec is not the poorest province in Canada and think about the tens of thousands of French speaking immigrants from Africa, Europe, Vietnam and Lebanon living in Quebec that you seem to forget because they spoke to us before you.
    Yannick, Montreal, Canada

    I feel compelled to answer to Robert Racco’s statement. What he has said is quite false. Yes, Quebec has some immigration policies of its own in addition to Canada’s, but there is nothing in the policy that you must be a French speaker. Many immigrants coming to Quebec don’t really speak a word of French once arrived. Quebec is a multicultural society that respects the rights of the minorities, even the anglophones! I’m an anglophone immigrant from the US and I have no problem dealing with the government, even in English if I want to test them. But I do recognize that French is the main language, so I put every effort in to learn it in order to be part of the society. I highly disagree that Quebec is disadvantaged economically. Quebec’s economy is the second largest in Canada after Ontario and it plays a strong role in a North American economy. Catalonia has every
    right to promote and protect the status of Catalan as the main language of the nation.
    Jack, Montreal, Canada

    Any reason seems to be valid in order to justify the use of Catalan as a language. It has always seemed to me that those so-called languages should be maintained for folklore. Who cares if there is one or six million speakers, Europe is trying to minimise, while Catalans and Basques want to be independent. I wonder from who or what. Besides what have those particular cultures given to the world?
    Shmuel Andrade, Israel

    In reply to Shmuel Andrade from Israel who said: “Catalans and Basques want to be independent. I wonder from who or what.” We want to be independent from the Spanish state, that is, to have our own state with representatives in the EU and the UN, to be able to compete in the Olympic Games, and not having to justify what language our children are taught in schools, to give you a few examples. “What have those particular cultures given to the world?” Many things that obviously you have never bothered to find out. Are you implying the world should get rid of “useless” cultures?
    Pau Montagut, Manchester


    Catalan language is an important part of our identity but not the only one

    Jaume, Washington DC

    I have not listened to the programme but as a Catalan following current affairs there I feel Mr Chaib is an example of how some people try to manipulate the migrants communities proclaiming themselves as their representatives in any kind of dialogue or interaction with society at large. An MP who is the director of an NGO, what about the independence of civil society? Your piece portrays Catalan society and politics as Spanish mainstream and right wing media do. Castillan language is not persecuted nor forbidden in Catalonia and will never be. Catalan language is an important part of our identity but not the only one. No-one is forced to renounce to their identity to be a “good Catalan”. There is no document nor physical requirement to be Catalan. If you feel like it, you are one of us and you are most welcome.
    Jaume, Washington DC

    The harsh reality of the matter is that from whichever country the Muslims come and in whatever state, the Spaniards have - dating back to their expulsion of the Moors - an institutionalised and deeply ingrained dislike and distrust of them. I am not a Muslim myself, and yet even I see this and feel it on a daily basis.
    Jon, Granada, Spain

    Catalonia has received wave after wave of migrants, particularly from Spain, during the 50s, 60s and 70s. They have been welcomed and integrated peacefully, contributing to Catalonia’s economic and social expansion. But now, resources and social services are stretched, housing is a problem, and this is creating ghettoisation of arrivals. While Catalans are happy to welcome everyone, the fact that its population is increasing so rapidly, and that these new arrivals belong to a different religion, culture, and do not have any interest in learning the language, is a recipe for trouble. Do not blame the locals for this. Catalan language and identity is already under threat, and these developments take it to the next critical step. It is logical that Catalans become weary of this.
    Roger, London


    Catalonia has been built on successive waves of immigration that have successfully integrated

    Robert, Glasgow

    I am a Catalan immigrant, but I can’t help to think that your coverage of this issue sounds very pro-Chaib (Labour MP) as if he is some kind of integration hero when he in fact is not. He wants to keep immigrants always classified as immigrants, instead of pursuing full integration as other parties are doing. There are immigrant activists in other parties yet only Mr Chaib seems to have been consulted. You seem to say immigrants are not welcome when in fact it is the complete opposite: Catalonia has been built on successive waves of immigration (as far back as the 14 Century) that have successfully integrated. My parents themselves are immigrants but I am completely bilingual and feel 100% Catalan.
    Robert, Glasgow

    Excellent programme. I have just returned to the UK after four years living in Barcelona and would certainly agree that immigrants have a tough time there. And I speak as a white, Spanish speaking European. Catalans are keen to maintain their heritage. All school is taught in Catalan for example.
    Of course Catalonia needs immigrant workers - for jobs paying minimum wage or below, often without a legal contract. And immigrants with qualifications fare no better. Highly qualified Spanish speakers are often passed over, in favour of lower qualified Catalan speakers. When I moved to Barcelona, a neighbour said he too was an immigrant because his parents came from Seville, even though he lived his whole life in Barcelona.

    Jim Chester, London

    I agree with Jim Chester in London. I am a Spaniard (Basque) myself and could not get a public job in Barcelona because my mother tongue is not Catalan (although I can speak fluent French, English, Italian, Basque and, of course, Spanish as a native, and a little bit of Catalan). I felt outraged but, hey what can you expect from an ultranationalist region? In the medium to long-term Catalonia is losing out on the world and it is starting to show. As a friend of mine says, there is not room in Spain for two big cities and for years Madrid’s growth has been far bigger than Barcelona’s. And it continues dramatically.
    Gorka Gortari, London

    Seven million people live in Catalonia of which very few can say they are truly Catalan. Barcelona and the other bigger towns have experienced internal migration from the south and north west from the beginning of the 1900s as people have moved looking for work. This has done more to “dilute the fiercely-protected identity” than the new arrivals. Add to this the steady stream of South Americans and Catalonia has long been a melting pot and all the better for it. Like all experiences of migration there is an initial period of mistrust, resentment and prejudice but time ensures integration, acceptance and long-lasting benefits.
    James, London


    If someone is desperate to start a new life they should honour the country they have chosen

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    Your story demonstrates the lack of respect immigrants have on the receiving country. If someone is desperate to start a new life they should honour the country they have chosen. It is like someone barging into your home saying they do not like your decorations or the way you live and that they want you to conform to their ways! The most important language to communicate with is the language of love. Just showing love of people by trying to pick up on some words of their language can bring a respectful bond. I have been taken into many a locals home on my travels just by showing true interest and desire to learn from my experience of travel.
    Marjorie, London

    I agree with the above post. When in Rome do as the Romans! I don’t know how many times people in Europe have to say that. I’m living in Japan and I live by their rules and respect their customs and rightfully so! Some of the political elite in Europe are spineless cowards who are caving into these people. It has to stop or there will be civil war the way things are going.
    Jorge, Tokyo

    The comments we publish are not necessarily the views of the BBC but will reflect the balance of views we have received. It is helpful if contributors state if they work for any organisation relevant to an issue discussed. Readers should form their own views on whether messages published represent undeclared interests, or views prompted by a common source.

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    News - Early man ‘couldn’t stomach milk’

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    A drink of milk was off the menu for Europeans until only a few thousand years ago, say researchers from London.


    Analysis of Neolithic remains, in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, suggests no European adults could digest the drink at that time.


    University College London scientists say that the rapid spread of a gene which lets us reap the benefits of milk shows evolution in action.


    But intolerance to milk remains common in modern times, say nutritionists.


    In order to digest milk, adult humans need to have a gene which produces an enzyme called lactase to break down lactose, one of the main sugars it contains.


    Without it, a drink of milk proves an uncomfortable experience, causing bloating, stomach cramps and diarrhoea.


    Today, more than 90% of people of northern European origin have the gene.


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    Working with scientists from Mainz University in Germany, the UCL team looked for the gene that produces the lactase enzyme in Neolithic skeletons dating between 5480BC and 5000BC.


    The ability to drink milk gave some early Europeans a big survival advantage

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    University College London


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    The lactase gene was absent from the DNA extracted from these skeletons, suggesting that these early Europeans would not be tolerant to milk.


    Dr Mark Thomas, from UCL, said: “The ability to drink milk is the most advantageous trait that’s evolved in Europeans in the recent past.


    “Although the benefits of milk tolerance are not fully understood, they probably include the advantage of a continuous supply compared with the ‘boom and bust’ of seasonal crops, its nourishing qualities, and the fact that, unlike stream water, it’s uncontaminated with parasites, making it safer.


    “All in all, the ability to drink milk gave some early Europeans a big survival advantage.”


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    The big question for scientists now is how the human population changed and took advantage of milk consumption.

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    The researchers took DNA from neolithic skulls


    One theory suggests that small groups who could tolerate lactose became dominant because they could then farm cattle for milk.


    But the UCL team says it is more likely that the genetic mutation allowing the digestion of milk arose at some point after dairy farming began.


    Dr Thomas says the absence of the gene in the remains studied supports this theory.


    If lactose tolerance had come first, the farmers would have already have had the gene.


    As they did not, he suggests the genetic mutation took place at a later point.


    He added: “It’s likely that the gene variant arose in one individual somewhere in northern Europe, and was such an advantage, it spread quickly.


    “This is probably the single most advantageous gene trait in humans in the last 30,000 years.”


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    Anna Denny, a scientist with the British Nutrition Foundation, said ‘lactase deficiency’ affected about 5% of white British people, and a larger proportion of those from some ethnic minorities.


    In some parts of the world, such as Asia and Africa, the vast majority of people are lactose intolerant to some degree.


    Once diagnosed, the usual way to control its symptoms is to restrict the amount of milk products eaten every day, although nutritionists say that eliminating dairy products entirely is usually unnecessary.


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    News - Science argues to keep bones

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    News - Changing China leaves guqin behind

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    With only a handful of performers and teachers, the guqin - with its long resonant strings and slender wooden body - is hanging by a slender thread as it seeks to survive in a totally free online dating environment.

    “When I play it I feel as though I’m trying to catch something that’s hovering elusively in the air,” Dai Xiaolian, one of the tiny number of people who still teach the instrument, told BBC World Service’s The World Today programme.

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    Tang dynasty poem on the guqin

    Meanwhile the guqin, with a history dating back 3,000 years and intimately bound up with other art forms, is being lost to China’s past.

    “Playing the guqin was one of the accomplishments which a scholar gentleman needed to have, along with playing Chinese chess and being skilled in calligraphy,” said Lin Youren, a veteran performer and teacher.

    “The Chinese name guqin itself means ancient stringed instrument and evokes the country’s classical culture of understated brush painting, calligraphy and scholarly poems.”

    The link to China’s cultural past has been most celebrated through poetry, often with concern for the fate of the soulful instrument.

    Indeed, one poem lamenting that “one can scarcely find true players anymore” dates back over 1,000 years to the Tang dynasty.

    “In the Tang dynasty the fashionable thing was ethnic music from the central Asian tribes - people didn’t want to listen to the guqin,” Lin Youren explained.

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    But the onslaught of modernisation and christian single online dating service in Chinese culture over the last century has been a powerful one.

    As the most potent symbol of the classical musical tradition, the guqin has suffered badly.

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    “I spend most of my time introducing the guqin to students who are fascinated by it and teaching it as a secondary subject to those who learn other instruments,” teacher Dai Xiaolian said.

    “But for the first time in over a decade, this year I have found one student wanting to specialise in the guqin.”

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    News - Greek heritage and Turkish politics

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    One of the most evocative events was the expulsion of many Greeks from Istanbul 40 years ago. A film set at that time is proving a Greek Cypriot blockbuster.

    It is not unusual to encounter traffic jams in the centre of Nicosia.

    But I was surprised to run into one a few weeks ago around a cinema complex outside the city.

    Greek Cypriots in large numbers were elbowing their way to a ticket booth to see a film set in Istanbul.

    “Politiki Kouzina” or “A Touch of Spice” looks like becoming the biggest selling Greek film ever.

    It tells the story of a Greek boy growing up in Istanbul - part of the thriving community that live in Turkey - many of them descendants of the Greeks of ancient Byzantium.

    The film is set against the background of the mass expulsion of an estimated 30,000 Greeks in 1964, when relations between Greece and Turkey deteriorated rapidly after inter-communal violence in Cyprus.

    When the lights went up, the Greek Cypriots sitting around me were wiping away tears.

    Most of them had never been to Istanbul, but it retains huge symbolic significance.

    Grassroots

    Greeks still refer to the city by its older name, Constantinopoli, and every year on the anniversary of the city’s conquest by the Ottomans, churches across Greece and Cyprus ring their bells.

    Although most of his congregation now lives elsewhere, the spiritual head of the Greek Orthodox Church, or “patriarch”, remains in Istanbul.

    He lives in an area called Phaner - the Greek word for light - which was once a prosperous neighbourhood.

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    Two weeks after seeing the film, I was visiting Istanbul and, climbing the steep streets of Phaner, it was clear just how much the Greeks left behind here.

    Tall solidly built town houses with marble steps and beautifully carved front doors. Monuments to the affluence and self-confidence of generations of Greek merchants.

    Many of these buildings are now just empty shells. Others more habitable are occupied by Kurdish migrants from south-east Turkey.

    Women in pink and red headscarves carried babies and loaves of bread up the hill, washing hung across the street above my head.

    There was an overpowering smell of sewage and drains.

    It is a transient population, these families will move on as soon as they get a break. And it was clear that nobody felt they owned the buildings.

    But remarkably there are still around 2,000 Greeks left here, and at the top of the hill overlooking the narrow, smelly streets, stands Istanbul’s last Greek school.

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    The rather grandly named “Great School of the Nation” is an austere 19th Century red-brick building with an imposing central tower that looks more like a Victorian prison.

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    The walls of the assembly hall were decorated with frescoes of the Greek heroes, Pericles, Herodotus and Alexander.

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    In front of them was the obligatory Ataturk corner, a display found in all Turkish schools, praising the free online game adult dating of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, father of the modern Turkish nation.

    It is a nation that has not always welcomed ethnic minorities. Until a few years ago the Turkish authorities had decreed that the frescoes in the assembly hall should remain boarded up.

    Before leaving I was invited to the principal’s office for tea.



    Here was the next generation, effortlessly switching between two languages and two cultures



    A dozen pupils - all girls - were being told off for using their mobile phones in class to send each other text messages.

    “Do not do it again”, said the principal. “OK” replied one of the girls in Greek, repeating the word in the same breath in Turkish.

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    And will this rapprochement give Greek Cypriots, lamenting the loss of their city, the confidence to go back and rediscover it for themselves as it is today, rather than mourning over a romanticised vision captured on film.


    From Our Own Correspondent was broadcast on Saturday, 20 March, 2004 at 1130 GMT on BBC Radio 4. Please check the programme schedules for World Service transmission times.

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